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SKYHARBOR – Interview with Keshav Dhar
Posted by thatdoesntsoundright in INTERVIEWS on September 12, 2011
We finally got the man behind Skyharbor (SoundCloud link), some of the freshest-sounding metal I’ve heard in a long time, Keshav Dhar. He was nice enough to give TDSR an extremely varied and interesting interview, that’s turned out mercifully free of stupid puns on ‘djent’. It’s long, sure, but we’re sure that those who stick with it will gain some great insights! Also, the knowledge economy requires you to be able to assimilate large amounts of information anyway, but I digress. Here you go.
Keshav: Hey man.
El Bajista (TDSR): Hey. How’re you doing?![]()
Keshav: Good man.
El Bajista (TDSR): Cool. Let’s get started. Tell us a little about your background, in a general sense. When did you first get into music? Why and when did you pick up the guitar?
Keshav: Well.. I’ve been playing music since i was about 6 years old – my parents got me started on piano lessons and I continued playing for about 10 years.Then, once I slowly started getting into rock and heavier music in general, I got more and more interested in the guitar. Plus once I joined college, it was in Manipal, which is a fairly remote student town in Karnataka. So, the only instrument I could carry realistically was the guitar…and I ended up sticking with it. I joined college in 2004, so you could say I made the shift to the guitar about a year before…. so 2003
El Bajista (TDSR): When you joined college, did you think you’d be doing music this intensively? (for info’s sake, what were you studying?)
Keshav: I was studying biomedical engineering. To answer your first question, no not at all.
Well….I was always interested in playing, considering I’ve been playing music ever since I can remember, but I never considered it as a full time career.
El Bajista (TDSR): Cool. Did you ever get to working after your degree, as an engineer?
Keshav: No, I was planning to do the MBA thing instead. So after college, I studied for a few months, gave the CAT exam etc. I scored pretty well in fact…I got a 97.4.
El Bajista (TDSR): !
Keshav: hahah. So while I was waiting for all the results to come through, the guys at Grey and Saurian had invited me to join them as they were setting up a company and generally doing a lot of cool initiatives that hadn’t been attempted in Delhi. And as it turned out, my CAT score wasn’t enough to get me a REALLY awesome school, so I decided I’d work with these guys, and study for another year and repeat the exam…I’d been dabbling in music production since my third year in college, since I really didn’t have anyone to jam my musical ideas with.
El Bajista (TDSR): (I have the same problem)
Keshav: So after a while I realized that I was actually better at music production than any engineering/MBA job. Hahaha
Oh really? Man, it sucks being in that position…I’m really fortunate to have an extremely supportive family
El Bajista (TDSR): We digress. But that leads me nicely to my next question. What were the projects that you did previous to Skyharbor [Facebook page link]?
Keshav: The only band I was actually a part of was Another Vertigo Rush [Link]. I played the odd gig here and there with bands as a fill in guitarist. Them Clones for example but the only band I was writing with was AVR. That was amazing.
El Bajista (TDSR): Cool. AVR were known for being pretty unique!
Keshav: Yeah man, it’s a real shame that we never really capitalized on that momentum. Members kept moving abroad and back, which generally got very disruptive and the whole flow was interrupted. So it’s on hiatus as of now. But that was a great period of writing because we came up with some really-really cool songs (which only the people who came to those 3-4 shows have ever heard). It was all-instrumental, with post rock vibes with tons of layers and epic melodies, which was a huge influence on my own writing as well.
El Bajista (TDSR): Speaking of momentum, Indian rock and metal seems to have been teetering on the brink of exploding for years, and yet no major artists (apart from a few such as yourself) have as yet emerged. Why is that?
Keshav: To be honest I think there’s no one specific reason for that. Its down to many factors. Firstly, there’s the power of the internet…and while it’s amazing to get yourself heard and gain traction, you also end up putting pressure on yourself because you generate expectations and a lot of times, that happens too soon, and it ends up compromising the honesty of the music that’s coming out…
That is just a recipe for disaster, ‘cause you’ll lose interest very fast if that happens.
El Bajista (TDSR): Yeah. I hate to say it, but some bands simply don’t have the talent and originality to back up on one or more ‘hit’ tracks. The net format seems to support a quick rise, followed by MySpace oblivion
Keshav: There you go. And it is not even about talent.
Bands suddenly generate all sorts of expectations without having written more than 1-2 songs…. And once those songs become popular, they spend all their subsequent time trying to recreate those same songs, instead of exploring their creative abilities to the maximum. It’s like… Ok, I’m getting recognized for having “this” sound, now I have to write everything to have this same signature sound or else I’ll go nowhere.
It’s amazing to get yourself heard [on the internet], but you end up under pressure because of expectations
El Bajista (TDSR): yeah. One of the things I’ve noticed is that famous musicians become famous not by anticipating what’s popular, but doing their own thing.
Keshav: Yeah, absolutely. The Deftones got a lot of flak earlier for being nu-metal, but they’re still killing it today and putting out legendary albums ‘cause they’re just doing their thing. They’re not trendhopping. The thing with the Internet is, it generates so much hype so fast, that often neither the artist nor the fans can keep up with the pace. Its is why I personally believe one should spend a lot of time on one’s music, get a large collection of material ready, before getting all excited about creating Facebook pages and MySpace accounts.
It’s very tempting to just put your songs out there, knowing that if you spam enough, someone or the other will click on it. Music first, everything else second…a distant second, in fact
El Bajista (TDSR):
For our readers, Skyharbor is testament to this fact…home production, no promotion, and Marty Friedman!
Keshav: Hahahah. I can often hardly believe it myself, but there you go. Are you from Delhi, btw?
El Bajista (TDSR): Yeah.
Keshav: Ahh.. So you know about that period between 2005-2008 where young bands were killing it everywhere.. JF, Superfuzz etc
El Bajista (TDSR): Yeah. I was in Delhi University between 2005-06.
Keshav: Ahhh. Those bands never really gave a crap about whether they were doing the cool thing or not. Which is why they were so good at their thing.
El Bajista (TDSR): Zero were big, if I remember correctly, Prithvi were on the rise, Parikrama had come up with….one song. It was a good time.
Keshav: Hahah. Yeah.
El Bajista (TDSR): We all know about your Marty Friedman and Daniel Tompkins collaboration. How did you come into contact with them?
Keshav: Both of those were really random occurrences. Dan first contacted me almost exactly a year ago from now, over MySpace. At that time, the project was still very much an experimental thing, as I was focused mostly on AVR then. In fact (slight digression) I was actually planning to can the entire project at the time ‘cause I was generally not happy in life and hadn’t written anything in ages. But once I got that email, saying he wanted to sing over my stuff, it was the kick in the ass I needed. Hahah.
Of course, there are certain similarities between Skyharbor and Tesseract sonically, so it ended up working really well, and from one song we ended up working on 6 songs. He’s pretty much done the whole album apart from 3 songs which Sunneith has done.
El Bajista (TDSR): Ok. Now this is a good place to ask you. When is this much-awaited album coming out?
Keshav: Yeah, I know people are getting impatient and maybe some are losing interest waiting too…in all honesty, I don’t want to fix a release date until I have the final mastered album ready. The last time I did that, I presumed June and that epic failed.
Plus, everyone’s waited so long already…another month or so won’t kill them. Also, I decided not to master the album myself, and Zorran Mendonsa will be doing it instead.
Zorran has actually been very instrumental in shaping the sound of this project. Trayus (my first ever song) was written with him in the room, guiding me on every aspect and making suggestions regarding riffs, layers, etc. In fact he’s written a LOT of the layer parts on that song. You could say he’s my mentor when it comes to songwriting and production, and although I can master it on my own, I think he can do a better job…I don’t believe in having a big ego over these things.
El Bajista (TDSR): Heh. One of the most remarkable things about Skyharbour’s music is the sheer number of different ideas you put in per unit time. There aren’t many (any?) repetitive parts that I can think of, off the top of my head. How do you manage to maintain the flow of the songs so well, and manage to keep things memorable, seeing that most musicians rely on repetitive structures to get the point across?
Keshav: You know, I believe that not enough people have experimented with writing on a computer. When you do that, it opens up tons more possibilities. For example, each riff in Aphasia is actually a combination of parts from maybe 15 totally different riffs, which I had lying around on the computer.
El Bajista (TDSR): ! (You heard that first at ThatDoesntSoundRight)
Keshav: Haha, yeah. I just chopped them up, took the parts I really liked, experimented with arranging them in different ways, till I found something I liked. Then came the tough part. I learned the riffs in their new form (which is usually very difficult, as it’s parts of different riffs stuck together)…and then re-recorded everything.
Each riff in Aphasia is a combination of parts from maybe 15 different riffs
El Bajista (TDSR): Hahaha. What a workout.
Keshav: You know, when you write riffs while you’re just jamming over say a programmed drum track or with your drummer…you’re always reaching into your regular bag of tricks, relying on your techniques, etc. Basically staying within your comfort zone. I found that the above approach to building riffs really helped me break out of that comfort zone.
El Bajista (TDSR): Cool. Your guitar playing seems to be more rhythm oriented than lead. Was there a particular point where you decided, or acknowledged, to yourself that your strength/focus would be hammering rhythms? Or are we going to be pleasantly surprised with a Steve Vai-ish release sometime in the future? ☺
Keshav: hahahahaha. I suppose most of the music I listen to is very strongly based around big groovy rhythms and ambient soundscapes…so naturally what I end up putting out also sounds like that, because that’s what I’m hearing in my head. I’m not the best lead player around…although I would like to get serious about learning some lead techniques to incorporate into future material maybe.

Marty Friedman
El Bajista (TDSR): mmm. Speaking of changing styles, do you have any plans or ideas laid out for music that’s not as heavy? Poppier, perhaps?
Keshav: Well, most of the stuff I’ve been writing recently is definitely not as aggressive as what you’ve heard already. It’s the main reason I wanted as much clean vocals as possible….I wouldn’t it’s say poppy, the stuff is proggier perhaps, with not-so-straightforward melodies, strange chord progressions etc… It’s all very experimental. One of those songs will go on the first album itself, called Aurora
El Bajista (TDSR): …setting the stage for further explorations, presumably.
Keshav: Exploration is where it’s at
El Bajista (TDSR): Sir ji, that goes in as the quotable quote of the interview.
Keshav: Haha, sweet!
El Bajista (TDSR): You’ve expressed, in other interviews, some opposition to being labeled exclusively Djent. Is it simply that as an artist, labeling is corsetry to you, or is it because you have an opposition to the term?
Keshav: I generally dislike labels that invoke images of a very specific type of sound, and Djent is the worst of the lot. It actually meant something completely different, but after Periphery and Tesseract became huge, people began calling it a genre
El Bajista (TDSR): Electronica people wouldn’t like to be labelled ‘bippity-bop’.
Keshav: Yeah, exactly. Haha. For an artist, it can get frustrating, because say someone doesn’t like Periphery, chances are they won’t like Skyharbor after seeing that both fall under the “djent” label, despite the music being (IMO) very different.
Exploration is where it’s at
El Bajista (TDSR): mm. Speaking of different music, What about things that fans of yours will be surprised you listen and learn from? Any Lady Gaga type guilty pleasures on the side
?
Keshav: Haha, I don’t think so really. I listen to a lot of chillout electronica, but nothing that people would go WTF at.:P I absolutely love Telefon Tel Aviv, Younger Brother, Bluetech, Entheogenic, Carbon Based Lifeforms, Amon Tobin, Boards of Canada…there’s so much awesome chillout music.
El Bajista (TDSR): Ok. This next one I’ve wanted to ask of someone. Is there any value in exploring the melding of Indian vernacular languages with very heavy music? There have been rock bands doing it, most notably Avial, but super heavy metal?
Keshav: Sure, you have all these bands from Bengal/Bangladesh who make extreme music in their own languages. Thing is, one shouldn’t do it just for the sake of it….
‘Cause if it isn’t honest, and it’s being done just to cater to a different audience, chances are the product will probably suck. But if you have the guts and really can express yourself that way, more power to you
El Bajista (TDSR): Even in rock, I kind of resent Bollywood appropriating an image culled from the west, rather than making something rock and Indian and then simply tacking on some Hindi lyrics. It’s the sound of middle-aged men reliving their youth rather than the youth expressing something with honesty.
Keshav: But then, Bollywood has always just been about making what sells, at least when it comes to the rock thing. Some of the good films which have awesome fusion music in Hindi or whatever language, sounds really-really good. But, I think it’s just good to let things develop on their own.
El Bajista (TDSR): Ok, though music is your biggest focus in life, are there any other fields that you would like to explore in the future? Writing? Science? That sort of thing….
Keshav: Hmmm, interesting, I would definitely want to try doing travel journalism, if I weren’t so serious about this, ‘cause I sadly don’t get much time to travel now…
El Bajista (TDSR): It’d be great.
Anyway man, its be an absolute pleasure talking with you.
Keshav: Likewise man. Thanks a lot for having me!
El Bajista (TDSR): Yeah. Absolutely. Any last words? About promoting your stuff and future projects and all that?
Keshav: Well, I’d like to thank everyone who’s checked out the music and liked it, I apologize for the delay in the release but I can assure you that it’ll be worth the wait and then some. It’s really turning out to be a great album and I’m very proud of it, and I hope you guys will enjoy it too.
Also check out Marty Friedman’s new solo album which releases in a couple of weeks…I’ve played rhythm guitar and done arrangements on a lot of the songs!
El Bajista (TDSR): Great! Watch out people. Watch this space.
-El Bajista
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A/J
Posted by thatdoesntsoundright in INTERVIEW with A/J for his new album COLORS, INTERVIEWS on August 28, 2011
We at ThatDoesntSoundRight reviewed (and liked) A/J’s brainy brand of fusion-guitar music early last year. Now, he’s back with what seems to be an even denser and more thoroughly thought out album, called Colors, which he will be releasing later this year. Check out this very in-depth (and yes, intellectually stimulating) interview that we had with him.
TDSR: So, Hi there!![]()
A/J: Hey
TDSR: You’ve been promoting your album online on Facebook for a while now, and I have heard a couple of your tracks. How far along is your album and when are you releasing it?
A/J: Yep, I realize its been about 3 months later than I originally thought I could release it.
But, as the teaser video says, it’ll be around mid-September. I’m adding finishing touches. All tracks done
TDSR: Can’t wait, man, the teaser sounded great.
A/J: Will be 10 tracks in this one. Hey, thanks that’s very semi final, and only fews for some 4 of 5 tracks
TDSR: I see. Can you take us, in brief, through the concept behind the album and the tracks? [FOR THOSE INTERESTED, DOWNLOAD AJIT'S EXPLANATION SHEET FOR Colours]
A/J: Sure. It all started out as an abstract idea. It was obvious that music is emotional content for the listener. We all go thru this theoretical movement about various scales and modes and moods. So major scales are generally bright and happy and minors are more moody and dark. And certain modes like Lydian have a kind of ethereal feel to it while the mixolydian or dominants have a peppy feel and so on. Well, while getting on to learning em I was kinda thrown on this idea, what about musical keys? Are there any connections to emotions?
TDSR: yeah
A/J: I did not have an answer so I started searching and reading up was interesting to find some point of views from classical era
Mind it! each one had a different POV
TDSR: yeah
A/J: Some names: Schubart, Castel, Scryabin, Kircher
TDSR: Yeah. On the point of POV, I was reading a book by Kandinsky, in which he mentions how artists in the late 19th century used to use ‘violet’ instead of ‘blue’ as a point to reference for sadness. ‘Blue’ only came along later with early 20th century music. I find your attribution of blue as ‘reflection, nostalgia, neutrality and patience’ interesting, as it breaks from the ‘how blue can you get’ cliche. Comments?
A/J: Yep, meaning what the color red could be mean anger to one while just plain passion to the other. Yea, I found it quite a maze.
And not to forget, I wanted to connect the mood to color to KEY.
TDSR: So three things connected.
A/J: So that research on Colour to Key was a maze the only conclusion I could get to was to take similes and not get too anal with detail. So, the next work was to identify Colours to emotions
TDSR: ok
A/J: Well, that’s a subject that’s been more researched and automatically had more solid inferences.But hey, for this one I decided to keep out of the musical inferences completely, as I wanted a plain a simple “psychology of colours” perspective. That led me to a many colour chart, but a few of them especially by some art universities had similarities. So I amalgamated and used the most common “psychology of colours”
TDSR: wow.
A/J: the final trick was to find “common words” or thoughts between the three and CONNECT
There was of course a fourth complexity. You remember the demos I’d sent to you right?
TDSR: yes. You sent me “Violet”.
A/J: Not that. Before that, the 11 or 12 track ideas, rough ideas which you heard and wrote some kind words on your blog
TDSR: ill have to look back in my inbox
A/J: Yea they were forgettable ;-)
TDSR: Nah nah. It was just a while back. For our viewers, the link is as follows:
http://thatdoesntsoundright.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/promo-aj-colors/
A/J: well like a fool I thought it would be easier to work on existing ideas rather than come up with new ones. That’s when the dates went haywire, and I went bonkers. ;-)
A/J: Yep. I took upon myself a task that had to connect that crazy alpha logic to my tracks ideas
A/J: The theory I came up with is from existing information, but its an amalgam of various sources. So its not original. The music is original, ‘cause so far people had THEORETICAL point of views on all three. But hey no one had the b#&* to actually try and execute it. Correct?
TDSR: Exactly, there are reams and reams of reading material on this, but few people apply it directly with intellectual rigour
A/J: Yep thanks for pointing that out
TDSR: Kudos, sir!
A/J: Thanks man but this is an experiment, as I suddenly evolved while working on this and I realised how we (each one of us) FEEL cant’ be generalised. Names given in any lingo to emotions is a system. But “how exactly” do we feel can’t be that generalized; its individualistic.
TDSR: ok.
A/J: so I hope this album of mine throws more questions than answers
TDSR: What have you been up to between the last album and this one, that has changed your style of playing? (if at all)
A/J: Well i am a “constant learner”. The first album was done when I was about two and half years old in music :-)
TDSR: Whoa. You’ve come far, my friend.
A/J: In retrospect now that was a time I was HEAVILY into technique and flair oriented runs and licks. I went headlong with that for a while. But then I heard, I mean really intensely heard players like Alex Hutchings, Guthrie Govan and Scott Henderson. I was blown away, and so took a few steps back and started to learn “phrasing” and style, not just technique and scales. I also came to have a liking towards ringing chord tones, open string chords that kinda changed the game completely.
TDSR: right.
A/J: Now, I don’t know where I am
TDSR: But these were the influences between your first and second albums. What were your initial influences? If i may append further, why did you pick up the guitar and when?
A/J: To answer your first q: I had to study and imbibe those things into my playing, which was hard work but extremely enjoyable.
Oh original: David Gilmour, Mark Knopfler, John Petrucci, Paul Gilbert, Jeff Beck. Jeff Beck was singular in making a huge musical point in my mind
TDSR: Excellent. Do you plan to perform this material live?
A/J: Yea. This, and the older material. But I am not interested in just putting any band together to perform for the sake of performance.
I need to connect with the other musicians and the vice versa before we can make the music work. I’ve jammed with people off and on, but that connection eludes me so far.
TDSR: Have you considered joining a band aside from your solo material?
A/J: Yea. Again its about the kind of music that I would like to play.
TDSR: Which is….?
A/J: Cerebral rock or subtle fusion; not the usual take-out-your-sitar-or-tabla fusion.
TDSR: ok. Elucidate.
A/J: No offense to those doing it though.
Well, the melodic structures are important; that’s Indian.
The western way is about introducing harmonic structures to give more character to the melodies. The play of different rhythmic structures makes it more interesting. For example, I kinda love to jam on a ¾, teen taal but played in a western manner, and to mix polyrhythms.
TDSR: ok. Now. I know personally, that you work in marketing as your day job, and do music as your pet passion.
A/J: Yep
TDSR: How do you manage the life of a high flying marketing exec on the one hand, and the introspection that is required to come up with a complex music concept?
Not to mention take time out to practice.
A/J: Here’s a one liner: 24 hours is what we all have, so instead of saying, “I would like to practice” and then go and play politics, DO SOMETHING about it
It’s not so easy.
TDSR: Simple, but not easy
A/J: and actually, I have a great boss, so I do get time to work on material. Also, my work is about research and ideas, so in way, ideas kinda come to me every now and then. All I gotta do is make a note and work on ‘em.
TDSR: Right. It’s quite inspiring for a younger person such as myself seeing how you’ve started pretty much from scratch and managed to release two albums in a span of some three years.
A/J: Four. Not three. This October, I will be four
TDSR: Final question. Do you think there is value in exploring the tonalities in the colors between the colors you’ve explored? For instance, between red and yellow, there is a sort of vermillion.
A/J: From a perspective of emotional content, definitely (don’t know what emotion it leads to offhand tho), but from a “key” perspective, not really.
But hell, I’ve discovered different sounds of the guitar while playing on different keys. So if I keep the exploration going and work on it, it should lead somewhere (I guess)
TDSR: Right. Well, this was truly an inspiring talk with you.
A/J: My pleasure
TDSR: I hope you had half as much fun responding to it as I did in asking you questions!
A/J: How about double?
TDSR: :) Epic. feels good.
A/J: Great
TDSR: Great, we wrap up here, then.
A/J: Yep
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